Socialism is NOT Communism

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Some stoke fear and outrage about socialism with the intent to confuse the ignorant, drawing on the fact that no one wants their government to fail them causing a failed economy, a lack of opportunity, or suppression of rights and freedoms. The truth is that all democracies include socialism and that includes America. America’s socialism includes the United States Military, CIA, FBI, fire departments, police, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system, the highway system, national guards, public libraries, the G.I. Bill, Corporate Bailouts, Corporate Welfare, Unemployment Insurance, etc.

So, why do governments fail? Most governments fail or struggle because of out-of-control corruption.

Democracy is government of the people, by the people, and for the people. America’s unique form of government introduced checks and balances

The worst type of corruption breaks the checks and balances of a nation and allows a leader to force their whims on the people. 

Corruption breaks the checks and balances that keeps powerful people from manipulating and suppressing the weak. Corruption

an overly powerful administration. An overly powerful leader with a weak senate and broken checks and balances allows corruption to creep into the political process, allowing the powerful to suppress the weak.

A much bigger problem to worry about right now is the attack on our checks and balances. That’s the real fear. When the FBI and DOJ are manipulated and not fully independent from the administration, that’s a much bigger problem.

What is socialism?

I do think many confuse the idea of socialism with communism and fascism.
 
 

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throughout American history we’ve believed in a social safety net. I guess you don’t. Every man for himself! True? Either way, it is extremely disingenuous to conflate the discussion of how much of a safety net, which is a form of socialism, with communism, dictatorships, and other failed and repressive governments. The power of our government is in the checks and balances, not the lack of a safety net.

Even our Founding Fathers believed in a social safety net. The role of government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Remember “40 acres and a mule” after the Civil War? Remember John Winthrop, the shining city on a hill speech from 1620s? He taxed colonists and gave every new colonist land.

We are a representative democracy based on capitalism with a reasonable social safety net. It’s our history for 400 years and it’s disingenuous to both associate a negative connotation with social programs, and it’s disingenuous to conflate socialism with communism, dictatorships, and other failed and repressive governments.

Some like to pretend liberals love communism

 As for support of communism, let’s drop that as I don’t think we are in disagreement except that you believe lefties want or used to want or kind of want America to turn communist, which is just not true at all in any way shape or form.

With that said, I’ll leave you with four thoughts to ponder. No need to reply. I already know you mostly agree with all 4 of these and our differences are minor.

a) Socialism is not communism.

b) McCarthy saw a communist under every rock and considered anyone who spoke positively or even asked questions about the idea of communism to be a communist. That’s UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!! The first amendment allows people to explore even bad ideas.

c) Conservatives like to conflate support of a small communist “community” with support for a communist government. Although mostly dead now, I agree that some liberals in the 50s-70s supported the idea of an extended family of up to 100 people living together in a commune. That has little to nothing to do with scaling up beyond about 100 people and nothing to do with governing millions of people.

d) Very few people supported Russia over America even in the 50s and 60s. The statistics show that generally that support came from bribes and money and not ideology. Both conservatives and liberals accepted bribes to do things during the cold war. To conflate American-Russian spies with liberals is disingenuous.

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Some like to conflate socialism and communism to trick people into hating socialism and our form of checked capitalism. I suspect that if most take a fair look at it, they would see that unchecked capitalism is a very bad idea on par with the feudal system of Kings and Barons–unchecked capitalism is bad, and checked capitalism is good.
The sad fact is that America today looks more like the Kings and Barons of old than like the bottom-up Democracy envisioned by our Founding Fathers. I wish people would not conflate socialism with communism. Likewise, I wish people would not confuse checks on capitalism with socialism. I think the far left is simply saying we need more checks on our version of capitalism because the capitalists are out of control.
 
Our Founding Fathers did not support unchecked capitalism at all. Not in any way or shape. The fact is our Constitution gave us checks and balances and we are free to try out any form of government and the checks and balances of the Constitution protect us.
 
To stoke fear, the top 1% barons of America label every check on capitalism as socialism and then paint socialism as a negative thing. The gap between the rich and the poor will continue to widen until all of us realize unchecked capitalism is bad, checked capitalism is good.
 

The state of socialism in America in 2019.

Here is what you need to know to understand American politics in 2019:

America Has over 75 Socialist Programs Now!

Communism is not socialism and we already have more than 75 very successful socialist programs in America including the United States Military, CIA, FBI, fire departments, police, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system, the highway system, national guards, public libraries, the G.I. Bill, Corporate Bailouts, Corporate Welfare, Unemployment Insurance, etc.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

Socialism is in our Constitution

The socialist concepts of Post Offices and Post Roads are in our Constitution! See Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

Socialist Countries Fail

Republicans like to repeat the lie that socialist countries fail and none have ever succeeded.

FACTS MATTER: Successful socialist countries that are “more” socialist than America include Denmark, Finland, Brazil, France, Germany, Greenland, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

How much socialism a country should implement is a fair question. I’m a capitalist but I correctly understand that socialism is not communism and whether a state fails or not has nothing to do with socialism.

Nazis were NOT Socialists

Claim: Nazis were socialists.

Reply: Nazis were and are fascists. Nazis drew their ideology from Italy’s fascists who took power as a reaction to the left. The fact that Nazis called themselves the “National Socialists” was a stunt.

These types of tricks are common. Think of North Korea’s “Democratic Peoples’s Republic of Korea” party (DPRK). NK is not democratic, nor a republic. The USSR is the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” but the USSR was neither socialist, nor a republic. (Although they were a union of countries, that fact should not reflect poorly on unions in America.)

Venezuela

Claim: Venezuela is an example of failed socialism.

Response: First off, if your point is that the Venezuela government is a good example of a bad government, I agree. As for Venezuela and socialism, I think your definition of socialism differs from mine and I’m not sure any government run by a dictator, or is heavily corrupt is worth considering when looking at types of governments.

I think there are substantial differences in definitions of social democracies, democratic socialism, and communism. Social democracies like Norway show that more equitable democratic societies are possible. But democratic socialism and communism are not the same things.

Venezuela’s “United Socialist Party of Venezuela” is the party of dictator Hugo Chavez and it’s not based on democratic socialism. I’m not even sure if it’s based on socialist democracy. Chavez was more like a dictator than anything else—or near dictator depending on how nice you want to be to his legacy. Chavez created it so he could get elected. It rejected democracy (crushed democracy) and endorsed Chavez’s twisted interpretation of the philosophy of Simon Bolivar.

Parties sometimes use “socialist” or “democratic” in their name but that doesn’t mean they are. Nazis were and are fascists but called themselves the “National Socialists”. The World Series is not of the world, it’s American. These types of tricks are common. Think of North Korea’s Democratic Peoples’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). NK is not democratic, nor a republic. The USSR is the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” but the USSR was neither socialist, nor a republic.

As I said above, if your point is that the Venezuela government is a good example of a bad government, I agree.

George Soros

George Soros is one of the most successful Jewish capitalists. Yes, he is an activist, but also a respected capitalist. He is a very successful investor and philanthropist. He grew up and survived Nazi occupied Hungary. Yes, he supports liberal causes, but his focus has always been against poverty, communism, and fascism. He actually helped drive communism out of Europe in the 1980s and 90s.

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George Soros is a successful Jewish capitalists, activist, and philanthropist. He grew up and survived Nazi Hungary. He supports liberal causes, but his focus has always been against poverty, communism, and fascism. He actually helped drive communism out of Europe in the 80s/90s.

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