It is disingenuous to conflate the discussion of how much of a safety net America should have, which is a form of socialism, with communism, fascism, dictatorships, and other failed and repressive governments.
Democracy is government of the people, by the people, and for the people. America’s unique form of government, a democratic republic, introduced checks and balances. The checks and balances is the unique thing America gave the world and is the real secret to the success of America. Lot’s of countries have constitutions, but not enough have good checks and balances.
Failed governments usually fall because of corruption and poor management–not because of the type of government.
All democracies include socialism and that includes America. Do not confuse social programs with a failed corrupt dictatorship.
American Social Programs vs. Failed Socialist Governments
A1; S8, Clause 1: “The Congress shall have Power…”
Clause 7: “To establish Post Offices and post Roads;”
It’s our history for 400 years. Remember “40 acres and a mule” after the Civil War? Remember John Winthrop, the shining city on a hill speech from 1620s? He taxed colonists and gave every new colonist land. It’s disingenuous to associate a negative connotation with social programs, and it’s disingenuous to conflate socialism with communism, dictatorships, and other failed and repressive governments.
America is a representative democracy based on capitalism with robust checks and balances and a reasonable social safety net.
Some like to pretend liberals love communism
As for support of communism, haters like to pretend lefties want or used to want or kind of want America to turn communist, which is just not true at all in any way shape or form.
With that said, I’ll leave you with four thoughts to ponder.
- Socialism is not communism.
- McCarthy saw a communist under every rock and considered anyone who spoke positively or even asked questions about the idea of communism to be a communist. The first amendment allows people to explore even bad ideas.
- Conservatives like to conflate support of a small communist “community” with support for a communist government. Although mostly dead now, I agree that some liberals in the 50s-70s supported the idea of an extended family of up to 100 people living together in a commune. That has little to nothing to do with scaling up beyond about 100 people and nothing to do with governing millions of people.
- Very few people supported Russia over America even in the 50s and 60s. The statistics show that generally that support came from bribes and money and not ideology. Both conservatives and liberals accepted bribes to do things during the cold war. To conflate American-Russian spies with liberals is disingenuous.
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A. Yes. America has over 75 very successful socialist programs right now! Communism is not socialism and we already have more than 75 social programs in America including the United States Military, CIA, FBI, fire departments, police, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system, the highway system, national guards, public libraries, the G.I. Bill, Corporate Bailouts, Corporate Welfare, Unemployment Insurance, etc.
Q. Does our Constitution support socialism?
A. Yes. Our Founding Fathers defined several in our Constitution. The socialist concepts of Post Offices and Post Roads are in our Constitution! See Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.
Q. Do socialist countries fail?
A. Republicans like to repeat the lie that socialist countries fail and none have ever succeeded.
FACTS MATTER: Successful socialist countries that are “more” socialist than America include Denmark, Finland, Brazil, France, Germany, Greenland, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.
How much socialism a country should implement is a fair question. I’m a capitalist but I correctly understand that socialism is not communism and whether a state fails or not has nothing to do with socialism.
Q. Weren’t Nazis socialists?
A. Nazis were and are fascists. Nazis drew their ideology from Italy’s fascists who took power as a reaction to the left. The fact that Nazis called themselves the “National Socialists” was a stunt.
These types of tricks are common. Think of North Korea’s “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” party (DPRK). NK is not democratic, nor a republic. The USSR is the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” but the USSR was neither socialist, nor a republic. (Although they were a union of countries, that fact should not reflect poorly on unions in America.)
Q. Isn’t Venezuela an example of failed socialism?
A. First off, if your point is that the Venezuela government is a good example of a bad government, I agree. As for Venezuela and socialism, I think your definition of socialism differs from mine and I’m not sure any government run by a dictator, or is heavily corrupt is worth considering when looking at types of governments.
I think there are substantial differences in definitions of social democracies, democratic socialism, and communism. Social democracies like Norway show that more equitable democratic societies are possible. But democratic socialism and communism are not the same things.
Venezuela’s “United Socialist Party of Venezuela” is the party of dictator Hugo Chavez and it’s not based on democratic socialism. I’m not even sure if it’s based on socialist democracy. Chavez was more like a dictator than anything else—or near dictator depending on how nice you want to be to his legacy. Chavez created it so he could get elected. It rejected democracy (crushed democracy) and endorsed Chavez’s twisted interpretation of the philosophy of Simon Bolivar.
Parties sometimes use “socialist” or “democratic” in their name but that doesn’t mean they are. Nazis were and are fascists but called themselves the “National Socialists”. The World Series is not of the world, it’s American. These types of tricks are common. Think of North Korea’s Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). NK is not democratic, nor a republic. The USSR is the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” but the USSR was neither socialist, nor a republic.
Just to be clear, if your point is that the Venezuela government is a good example of a bad government, I agree.
Q. Isn’t George Soros a corrupt socialist?
A. George Soros is one of the most successful Jewish capitalists. Yes, he is an activist, but also a respected capitalist. He is a very successful investor and philanthropist. He grew up and survived Nazi occupied Hungary. Yes, he supports liberal causes, but his focus has always been against poverty, communism, and fascism. He actually helped drive communism out of Europe in the 1980s and 90s.